Thursday, February 05, 2009
Christians plan response to Atheist bus adverts.
A trinity of Christian groups have created their own series of advertisements to run across London buses... The new campaign is organsied by the Christian Party, the Trinitarian Bible Society and the Russian Orthodox Church... In a somewhat cheeky move, the Rev George Hargreaves of the Christian Party has created a bus advert which proclaims: "There definitely is a God. So join the Christian Party and enjoy your life."
Now, I definitely have no problem with this. My one concern is that the Humanists had to put the 'probably' into 'there probably isn't a God' in order to cover themselves from complaints by any fundamentalist wackos that happened to be passing. Will there be any double standard if an atheist complains about the definitive nature of these pro-imaginary being statements? What if we have atheist bus drivers too 'shocked' and 'horrified' to drive buses with those advertisements on?
It's unclear whether the charmless bigots have a position on this yet as they are busy helping to advertise the University of Saint Andrews' amateur performance of Jerry Springer The Opera for them. Isn't that the very spirit of Christian charity?
A trinity of Christian groups have created their own series of advertisements to run across London buses... The new campaign is organsied by the Christian Party, the Trinitarian Bible Society and the Russian Orthodox Church... In a somewhat cheeky move, the Rev George Hargreaves of the Christian Party has created a bus advert which proclaims: "There definitely is a God. So join the Christian Party and enjoy your life."
Now, I definitely have no problem with this. My one concern is that the Humanists had to put the 'probably' into 'there probably isn't a God' in order to cover themselves from complaints by any fundamentalist wackos that happened to be passing. Will there be any double standard if an atheist complains about the definitive nature of these pro-imaginary being statements? What if we have atheist bus drivers too 'shocked' and 'horrified' to drive buses with those advertisements on?
It's unclear whether the charmless bigots have a position on this yet as they are busy helping to advertise the University of Saint Andrews' amateur performance of Jerry Springer The Opera for them. Isn't that the very spirit of Christian charity?
Labels: adverts, atheism, atheists, Christian Voice, Fundamentalists- Christian, Jerry Springer The Opera, religion, Stephen Green
Friday, July 18, 2008
Bwahahahahaha!
Previously.
Stephen Green, sole creator of the unpopular soap opera consisting purely of charmless bigots Christian Voice, let's us know how things are going for him at the moment:
BBC GO FOR POUND OF FLESH OVER SPRINGER COSTS.
So, that suggestion that they should pay for his decision to take them to court didn't work then?
The BBC have just sent a bailiff to serve a statutory demand on Christian activist Stephen Green in respect of Mark Thompson's costs of £55,000 in the Jerry Springer the Opera case.
The demand could see Green made bankrupt and homeless.
The High Court ruled last December that Stephen Green could not prosecute Mark Thompson, the Director General of the BBC, and Jonathan Thoday of Avalon over the BBC2 broadcast of Jerry Springer the Opera and its subsequent theatre tour. The Court ordered costs against him.
Mark Thompson and Jonathan Thoday were awarded costs totalling £90,000 against Green, who is the National Director of the prayer and lobby group Christian Voice. The BBC's solicitors were awarded £55,000 and Olswangs Solicitors, who acted for Thoday, got an order for £35,000.
Still, there is a bright-side:
The costs order is better than it could have been; the BBC originally demanded almost £78,000 after instructing David Pannick QC, probably the most expensive barrister they could find, while Thoday wanted over £58,000.
Last month, Stephen Green wrote to both Mark Thompson and Jonathan Thoday inviting them to waive their costs in the interests of goodwill and justice. The appeal to the better nature of Thompson has fallen on deaf ears.
Funny that. It's almost as though they were angry at having their reputations, and that of the businesses they worked for, being impugned by one hubristic runner-up from a Master lookalike contest.
It should be enough for Mark Thompson and Jonathan Thoday that they got away with blasphemy, insulting God and the Lord Jesus Christ, at least in this life. For these rich, powerful men to pursue me into the bankruptcy courts over money I don't have would be vindictive.'
Both sets of solicitors have also threatened to chase the donors who gave the money for the original action, but it is far from clear that a court would allow that. Even if it did, Green is adamant that he will protect the donors' identity, even if that puts him in contempt of court.
'I should go to prison rather than reveal their names, even if I could remember who they were,' he told both Thompson and Thoday.
Stephen Green, sole creator of the unpopular soap opera consisting purely of charmless bigots Christian Voice, let's us know how things are going for him at the moment:
BBC GO FOR POUND OF FLESH OVER SPRINGER COSTS.
So, that suggestion that they should pay for his decision to take them to court didn't work then?
The BBC have just sent a bailiff to serve a statutory demand on Christian activist Stephen Green in respect of Mark Thompson's costs of £55,000 in the Jerry Springer the Opera case.
The demand could see Green made bankrupt and homeless.
The High Court ruled last December that Stephen Green could not prosecute Mark Thompson, the Director General of the BBC, and Jonathan Thoday of Avalon over the BBC2 broadcast of Jerry Springer the Opera and its subsequent theatre tour. The Court ordered costs against him.
Mark Thompson and Jonathan Thoday were awarded costs totalling £90,000 against Green, who is the National Director of the prayer and lobby group Christian Voice. The BBC's solicitors were awarded £55,000 and Olswangs Solicitors, who acted for Thoday, got an order for £35,000.
Still, there is a bright-side:
The costs order is better than it could have been; the BBC originally demanded almost £78,000 after instructing David Pannick QC, probably the most expensive barrister they could find, while Thoday wanted over £58,000.
Last month, Stephen Green wrote to both Mark Thompson and Jonathan Thoday inviting them to waive their costs in the interests of goodwill and justice. The appeal to the better nature of Thompson has fallen on deaf ears.
Funny that. It's almost as though they were angry at having their reputations, and that of the businesses they worked for, being impugned by one hubristic runner-up from a Master lookalike contest.
It should be enough for Mark Thompson and Jonathan Thoday that they got away with blasphemy, insulting God and the Lord Jesus Christ, at least in this life. For these rich, powerful men to pursue me into the bankruptcy courts over money I don't have would be vindictive.'
Both sets of solicitors have also threatened to chase the donors who gave the money for the original action, but it is far from clear that a court would allow that. Even if it did, Green is adamant that he will protect the donors' identity, even if that puts him in contempt of court.
'I should go to prison rather than reveal their names, even if I could remember who they were,' he told both Thompson and Thoday.
Labels: BBC, Christian Voice, Fundamentalists- Christian, Jerry Springer The Opera, Stephen Green
Saturday, July 05, 2008
In hilarious news, after losing his court case Stephen Green, founder and sole member of charmless bigots Christian Voice, faces declaring bankruptcy in the face of court awarded damages against him. Of course, this sort of thing is never nice to happen to anyone, but then on the other hand Green is a deeply, deeply unpleasant individual.
He's basically arguing that because the BBC and Avalon are so rich they should let him off this money, right after they wasted money defending themselves against his ridiculous time and money-wasting prosecutions in court.
'It should be enough for Mark Thompson and Jonathan Thoday that they got away with blasphemy, insulting God and the Lord Jesus Christ, at least in this life. For these rich, powerful men to pursue me into the bankruptcy courts over money I don't have would be vindictive.'
He links to a petition asking those who have lost money due to the actions of Stephen Green to let him off paying them, there's a second petition calling on the BBC and Avalon to insist on receiving the money in full. The 'please pay' petition has about three hundred more votes so far but the bulk of them seem to be people insulting Stephen.
I wonder if Stephen Green will be picketing Pride this year? If he does, perhaps people could help him out by tossing any coppers they have his way?
He's basically arguing that because the BBC and Avalon are so rich they should let him off this money, right after they wasted money defending themselves against his ridiculous time and money-wasting prosecutions in court.
'It should be enough for Mark Thompson and Jonathan Thoday that they got away with blasphemy, insulting God and the Lord Jesus Christ, at least in this life. For these rich, powerful men to pursue me into the bankruptcy courts over money I don't have would be vindictive.'
He links to a petition asking those who have lost money due to the actions of Stephen Green to let him off paying them, there's a second petition calling on the BBC and Avalon to insist on receiving the money in full. The 'please pay' petition has about three hundred more votes so far but the bulk of them seem to be people insulting Stephen.
I wonder if Stephen Green will be picketing Pride this year? If he does, perhaps people could help him out by tossing any coppers they have his way?
Labels: Christian Voice, Fundamentalists- Christian, Jerry Springer The Opera, Stephen Green
Thursday, May 08, 2008
It seems that charmless bigots Christian Voice is going to try something which he hasn't done before, an act of public service. Stephen Green writes
The prospect of the BBC auditioning pop hopefuls in front of Andrew Lloyd Webber for the role of Jesus has led a Christian group to promise Jerry Springer the Opera-style protests and evangelism if the project goes ahead.
So, a lot of sound and fury that signifies nothing and achieves nothing except several pointless years in court?
Christian Voice said tonight that they might even try to get young Christians into the audition room itself to share the Gospel of the real Jesus Christ with Lord Lloyd-Webber himself.
Presumably they'll also be telling Graham Norton and John Barrowman that they'll be going to hell as well?
The prospect of the BBC auditioning pop hopefuls in front of Andrew Lloyd Webber for the role of Jesus has led a Christian group to promise Jerry Springer the Opera-style protests and evangelism if the project goes ahead.
So, a lot of sound and fury that signifies nothing and achieves nothing except several pointless years in court?
Christian Voice said tonight that they might even try to get young Christians into the audition room itself to share the Gospel of the real Jesus Christ with Lord Lloyd-Webber himself.
Presumably they'll also be telling Graham Norton and John Barrowman that they'll be going to hell as well?
Labels: Christian Voice, Fundamentalists- Christian, Jerry Springer The Opera, musicals, Stephen Green
Friday, March 07, 2008
Poor old Stephen Green, head/sole member of charmless bigots Christian Voice. He's not having a great time of things at the moment. First, The Law Lords have ruled that his spat with the BBC and producers of Jerry Springer: The Opera has indeed reached it's end.
The decision of the House of Lords, in conceding that there was a point of law at issue - that of whether theatres and broadcasters have a legal loophole to blaspheme - but declining to hear it on a pretext, brings the Jerry Springer the Opera case to an end. It means there is no redress in British law against those who portrayed Jesus Christ on stage and on the BBC as an infantile coprophiliac, told by the character of Jerry Springer in the show to 'Grow up for Christ's sake and put some f***ing clothes on.' Apparently Jesus Christ, Mary the mother of the Lord and Almighty God may now be ridiculed and insulted on stage and by broadcasters free from the sanctions of the law.
Stephen Green said, 'Contrary to the finding of these Law Lords, it is indeed a matter of great general public importance at this very time that the Almighty Creator of the universe and the Saviour of mankind have been insulted and vilified in this United Kingdom. It brings down the judgment of God on us all. I love my neighbour and I do not want that to happen.
'Christians will now have to take matters into their own hands when Christ is insulted on stage and on screen. As it happens, our campaign against the theatre tour of Jerry Springer the Opera was highly successful, by the grace of God. The producers and theatres lost a fortune and Stewart Lee himself said it was 'ruined'. Blasphemy isn't going to happen on stage in the United Kingdom, it's just that unless and until this loophole is closed, Christians will have to find avenues other than those of the law.
Notice that? If Stephen Green had dark skin then surely the Plod would be feeling his collar and he might expect a visit to Camp X-Ray, seeing as we have a barely coded incitement to violence right there in the third paragraph.
Unfortunately it gets worse for the Christian extremist hate-peddler as, in an as-yet unreported move, the UK blasphemy laws are taken round behind the shed and humanely put down. The National Secular Society celebrate, though the Government will still be trying to bring in the Incitement to Religious Hatred Bill which will do much the same thing. Still, anything that pisses off Stephen Green is a good thing.
The decision of the House of Lords, in conceding that there was a point of law at issue - that of whether theatres and broadcasters have a legal loophole to blaspheme - but declining to hear it on a pretext, brings the Jerry Springer the Opera case to an end. It means there is no redress in British law against those who portrayed Jesus Christ on stage and on the BBC as an infantile coprophiliac, told by the character of Jerry Springer in the show to 'Grow up for Christ's sake and put some f***ing clothes on.' Apparently Jesus Christ, Mary the mother of the Lord and Almighty God may now be ridiculed and insulted on stage and by broadcasters free from the sanctions of the law.
Stephen Green said, 'Contrary to the finding of these Law Lords, it is indeed a matter of great general public importance at this very time that the Almighty Creator of the universe and the Saviour of mankind have been insulted and vilified in this United Kingdom. It brings down the judgment of God on us all. I love my neighbour and I do not want that to happen.
'Christians will now have to take matters into their own hands when Christ is insulted on stage and on screen. As it happens, our campaign against the theatre tour of Jerry Springer the Opera was highly successful, by the grace of God. The producers and theatres lost a fortune and Stewart Lee himself said it was 'ruined'. Blasphemy isn't going to happen on stage in the United Kingdom, it's just that unless and until this loophole is closed, Christians will have to find avenues other than those of the law.
Notice that? If Stephen Green had dark skin then surely the Plod would be feeling his collar and he might expect a visit to Camp X-Ray, seeing as we have a barely coded incitement to violence right there in the third paragraph.
Unfortunately it gets worse for the Christian extremist hate-peddler as, in an as-yet unreported move, the UK blasphemy laws are taken round behind the shed and humanely put down. The National Secular Society celebrate, though the Government will still be trying to bring in the Incitement to Religious Hatred Bill which will do much the same thing. Still, anything that pisses off Stephen Green is a good thing.
Labels: Christian Voice, Fundamentalists- Christian, Jerry Springer The Opera, law, Stephen Green
Thursday, December 06, 2007
Update on the Christian Voice in court story from last month, the charmless bigots have lost their case, The Times reports judges at the High Court ruled that the Theatres Act 1968 prevents any prosecution for blasphemy over public performances of plays, and the Broadcasting Act 1990 prevents any prosecution in relation to broadcasts while Beeb DG Mark Thompson writes in the Telegraph, the first comment on which is from someone called David who says Let's be honest - the BBC is and has been since about the 1930s a socialist/communist front organisation. Unless one is from the ghastly Guardian degenerates then do not apply for a job. It is thus hardly surprising that the disgusting BBC puts out filth and blasphemous programmes. However it is worrying that the legal profession is also tainted with the same sort of hatred of all that is decent in what is left of England. I'm surprised he didn't manage to fit a slam on gays in there too. Anyway, Stephen Green has already said on the Bigot's website that he will be appealing this decision.
I have heard the line that Jerry Springer the Opera was a satire on intrusive and exploitative TV before. The BBC are repeating it in a somewhat self-serving press release this morning.
Are you there pot? It's me, kettle.
I have heard the line that Jerry Springer the Opera was a satire on intrusive and exploitative TV before. The BBC are repeating it in a somewhat self-serving press release this morning.
Are you there pot? It's me, kettle.
Labels: BBC, Christian Voice, courts, Fundamentalists- Christian, Jerry Springer The Opera, Stephen Green
Wednesday, November 21, 2007
Aaaaah, Christians, you've got to love 'em. Turn the other cheek? Judge not lest ye be judged? Anyway, charmless bigots Christian Voice, consisting of sole member and professional timewaster Stephen Green, is at the High Court today asking for the right to give more free publicity to Stewart Lee's not really that good opera of a few years ago, Jerry Springer-The Opera. Mr Green thinks it's terrible that Stewart Lee has moved on to other things and wants to prosecute him, his dog and all the kids that picked on Mr Green at school for being a weirdo, for blasphemy, an outdated stain on our legal system not used since Mary Whitehouse prosecuted Gay News for printing this poem. If Mr Green did get his day in court it might prove more fun than the Diana inquest, you can imagine the scene:
Prosecuting Counsel: And then the chorus shouts "What the fuck, what the fuck, what the fucking fucking fuck" your honour.
From The Times report:
Michael Gledhill, QC, appearing for Mr Green, said... it was not being argued that "God cannot be criticised... This is not just about protecting the rights of a section of the Christian population. It is about protecting the constitution of the nation which is built on the Christian faith."
Yes, Mr Green is claiming that Jerry Springer: The Opera is an act of terrorism against the United Kingdom.
At the moment the Christian Voice website is concentrating on how vaccination is a Government plot to let four-year-olds have promiscuous sex. A DVD of Jerry Springer The Opera is available and would make a lovely Christmas present.
Prosecuting Counsel: And then the chorus shouts "What the fuck, what the fuck, what the fucking fucking fuck" your honour.
From The Times report:
Michael Gledhill, QC, appearing for Mr Green, said... it was not being argued that "God cannot be criticised... This is not just about protecting the rights of a section of the Christian population. It is about protecting the constitution of the nation which is built on the Christian faith."
Yes, Mr Green is claiming that Jerry Springer: The Opera is an act of terrorism against the United Kingdom.
At the moment the Christian Voice website is concentrating on how vaccination is a Government plot to let four-year-olds have promiscuous sex. A DVD of Jerry Springer The Opera is available and would make a lovely Christmas present.
Labels: Christian Voice, Fundamentalists- Christian, Jerry Springer The Opera, Stephen Green
