Sunday, August 03, 2008
Christian Voice Watch
Stephen Green, the solo Christian protester who masquerades under the name 'Christian Voice', an imaginary coterie of charmless bigots, takes time out of his busy schedule of looking in gutters and down the back of chairs for loose change to pay off his massive legal costs to call for the restoration of the death penalty. Yep, he's one of those Christians that pay more attention to the Old Testament than the New.
'In the Christian understanding, upon which our laws are or should be based, the death penalty was given to mankind for perpetuity under God's covenant with Noah. That covenant was sealed with the sign of the rainbow (Genesis 9:12-13). 'The Bible verse says: "Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed" (Genesis 9:6, AV) and it goes on to explain why: "for in the image of God made He man."
As ever, the strain of making a logical argument proves too much for Green:
'In fact we set the value of a human life even lower. In the sixties, with the abolition of the death penalty in 1965 and the Abortion Act 1967, our politicians took away the death penalty from the guilty, by the state, where it belongs, and imposed it upon the innocent, within the family, where it does not. The result is a society with no compassion for the victims of crime and their families or for the weaker members of society. We see this today in the callous nature of crimes committed by teenagers on each other and in the increasing brutality of Britain.
Yes, we need to get rid of women's access to safe abortion services and bring back the death penalty to make the United Kingdom a less brutal place.
'The death penalty should not be available to judges for all convicted murderers, just for those convicted by overwhelming evidence: that is on the testimony of two or three eye-witnesses, or the equivalent in forensics.
Why do judges need 'two or three eyewitnesses' before Green lets them do what his God is so keen for them to do? And what about soldiers or police marksmen?
It's worth reading to see how Green doesn't really understand the legal system, which possibly explains why he's in the mess he's in at the moment.
'The Governments' proposed 'seriously wronged' defence will not command public confidence, as most people would agree that the commission of adultery is a serious wrong; yet that is to be specifically excluded.
As I understand it, should someone kill their partner due to discovering they were being adulterous, they will not be able to use the 'seriously wronged' defense to get a lesser charge. So this would be a good thing.
However, it would be right to abolish the defence of diminished responsibility - no-one has the right to diminish another's responsibility.
A plea of 'diminished responsibility' is usually used by someone pleading guilty in the hopes of receiving a less severe sentence. I've never heard of someone diminishing another's responsibility and would love to hear Green's explanation for this.
It all just shows how wrong we can get it when man presumes to make laws which should be made by Almighty God.'
Hmmm, sounds like this Jehova chappy should be arrested and prosecuted for Incitement if you ask me.
'In the Christian understanding, upon which our laws are or should be based, the death penalty was given to mankind for perpetuity under God's covenant with Noah. That covenant was sealed with the sign of the rainbow (Genesis 9:12-13). 'The Bible verse says: "Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed" (Genesis 9:6, AV) and it goes on to explain why: "for in the image of God made He man."
As ever, the strain of making a logical argument proves too much for Green:
'In fact we set the value of a human life even lower. In the sixties, with the abolition of the death penalty in 1965 and the Abortion Act 1967, our politicians took away the death penalty from the guilty, by the state, where it belongs, and imposed it upon the innocent, within the family, where it does not. The result is a society with no compassion for the victims of crime and their families or for the weaker members of society. We see this today in the callous nature of crimes committed by teenagers on each other and in the increasing brutality of Britain.
Yes, we need to get rid of women's access to safe abortion services and bring back the death penalty to make the United Kingdom a less brutal place.
'The death penalty should not be available to judges for all convicted murderers, just for those convicted by overwhelming evidence: that is on the testimony of two or three eye-witnesses, or the equivalent in forensics.
Why do judges need 'two or three eyewitnesses' before Green lets them do what his God is so keen for them to do? And what about soldiers or police marksmen?
It's worth reading to see how Green doesn't really understand the legal system, which possibly explains why he's in the mess he's in at the moment.
'The Governments' proposed 'seriously wronged' defence will not command public confidence, as most people would agree that the commission of adultery is a serious wrong; yet that is to be specifically excluded.
As I understand it, should someone kill their partner due to discovering they were being adulterous, they will not be able to use the 'seriously wronged' defense to get a lesser charge. So this would be a good thing.
However, it would be right to abolish the defence of diminished responsibility - no-one has the right to diminish another's responsibility.
A plea of 'diminished responsibility' is usually used by someone pleading guilty in the hopes of receiving a less severe sentence. I've never heard of someone diminishing another's responsibility and would love to hear Green's explanation for this.
It all just shows how wrong we can get it when man presumes to make laws which should be made by Almighty God.'
Hmmm, sounds like this Jehova chappy should be arrested and prosecuted for Incitement if you ask me.
Labels: Christian Voice, Fundamentalists- Christian, law, Stephen Green
